Monday, September 28, 2009

Obama Calls For a Contiguous Palestinian State? Split Israel in Half?

At Obama's address to the United Nations, he seemed to call for a contiguous Palestinian State. The comment has seemingly gone unnoticed but has huge implications. Specifically, Obama called for "Palestinian state with contiguous territory". Look at a map, the only way to connect Gaza and the West Bank is to cut Israel in half. That or 'book end' Israel will a long string boarder around Israel. With the possibility of shooting down Israeli planes heading toward Iran (Berman Post: Zbigniew Brzezinski - 'US Should Shoot Down Israeli Jets if They Cross Into Iraqi Airspace'), continued attacks against 'settlements' (Berman Post: Obama Administration Attacks Israel Over 'Settlement' Construction) taking an even stronger tone in his speech at the UN, resulting in a relationship in tatters (Berman Post: Only Four Percent of Israeli Jews Think Obama is Pro-Israel), this does not seem as crazy a notion as it would have a year ago. That is for a United States president to make such a proposal potentially cutting Israel in half.

Video embedded below. (jump to 20:50)



http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/24/us/politics/24prexy.text.html?pagewanted=all (bold mine)

"I will also continue to seek a just and lasting peace between Israel, Palestine, and the Arab world. (Applause.) We will continue to work on that issue. Yesterday, I had a constructive meeting with Prime Minister Netanyahu and President Abbas. We have made some progress. Palestinians have strengthened their efforts on security. Israelis have facilitated greater freedom of movement for the Palestinians. As a result of these efforts on both sides, the economy in the West Bank has begun to grow. But more progress is needed. We continue to call on Palestinians to end incitement against Israel, and we continue to emphasize that America does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements. (Applause.)

The time has come -- the time has come to re-launch negotiations without preconditions that address the permanent status issues: security for Israelis and Palestinians, borders, refugees, and Jerusalem. And the goal is clear: Two states living side by side in peace and security -- a Jewish state of Israel, with true security for all Israelis; and a viable, independent Palestinian state with contiguous territory that ends the occupation that began in 1967, and realizes the potential of the Palestinian people. (Applause.)
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12 comments:

  1. The same thought occurred to me.
    I was wondering when someone would comment on it.
    I guess someone forgot to brief his speechwriters on basic geography.

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  2. he is pure and simple a gandhian, who is trying to follow Gandhi's footmark..

    Gandhi demanded too, that India to be divided so East and West Pakistan can be joined... now the same age old idiotry...

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  3. This is wrong!
    Israel was promised peace if it gave up GAZA. So it gave up GAZA - which has now been used to increase the threat - and still no peace.
    Like most people in Europe, I was 100% for Obama. However, somebody in the white house will have to explain to him how the Arab Muslims "Peace=Truce" Taqiyyah policy actually works (ex: Medina/Mecca).
    With the millions of people leaving muslim countries to "colonise" the uk & europe, there must be plenty of room in muslim countries for those not wishing to live next to Israel to move back.
    If Obama suddenly decided that my house now belonged to, say, France - and I should therefore move, I would be extremely pissed off.
    These are PEOPLE he is trying to displace.

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  4. Obama obviously is a Muslim, he is there to destroy the US from within, probably Iran or Saudi Arabia are paying him to do so, anyway there are so many clues that he is just doing the work of the Jihadist in the US, for most US enemies is the best dream, for the americans the worst nightmare

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  5. I can only describe Obamas speech at the viper pit called the UN as fresh warm and fuzzy horseshit from a decrepit horses ass! This man knows how to talk but rarely does he say anything. It has been a useful experiment in race relations but he was not the right "black man" for the job. I think giving him more than one term as president will cause the full on collapse of the USA.

    Just my two cents

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  6. Oboingo is an ineffectual rube who is being financed by Soros and Goldman Sachs.

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  7. The End of the West has come!!!!
    Europeans and Americans will share the fate of the indians (Native Americans)
    The aztecs, the mayan and the incas all dissapeared to give way to the european lead

    civilazation, they invited the Europeans with good heart but unfortunate for them, they just

    come with two things on mind, how to get their resources and how to exterminate them.

    European and American leaders are doing what the Indian leaders did, inviting their enemies

    to their land and to their positions of power (see obama for example the first muslim

    president and the one who will destroy the West).
    Christianity was first removed by the seculars and socialists just to make room for Islam

    the belief of the new Conquistadors.
    Just as the conquistadors of the indians did with their machine guns, they used on anyone in

    their path, in the same way Iran and Pakistan will use their atomic weapons first on

    America, they won't put their nukes on a Museum as the West is doing with their Nukes.
    Time that the Neo cruzadors wake up, Jihadist listens to our theme.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLNCe3ZYZ1E

    Were not submissive, were not aggressive
    But they think we cant defend

    Stand up, join us, modern crusaders alive
    We have the power to face the future
    Cause we are the fighters
    Just fighting for our rights

    Theyre accusing, like always without knowing
    What is just fiction or what is the truth
    They have no mission, they have no passion
    But they dare to tell us whats bad and whats good!

    Drive on
    And weighted down,
    Always enslaved.(islam teaches not to think by themselves but how to become successfull slaves)

    Stand up, join us, modern crusaders alive!

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  8. Americans voted for CHANGE! I did NOT!
    Now they will have to SUFFER for that Wrong Decision!
    Israely is God's Country and America has NO BUSINESS telling Israel what to DO!
    We Cannot even keep the 3-Trillion Dollars a year of "ILLEGAL DRUGS" out of America!
    I do not Support President Obama! Instead I will Obey God...!
    (Psalms 122:6) Pray for the peace of Jerusalem; those who love you shall be blessed.
    Please visit my Page, http://truth459.blogspot.com/
    Thanks, Roger / Florida / USA.
    Ende..!

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  9. All of the people commenting here need some more fact checking.

    A. There are a number of proposals (check out Rand corporation for example) that have found ways to connect Palestinian territories while still keeping Israel contiguous as well. Tunnels, guarded roads with overpasses or underpasses, etc. Use your imagination. How can you be so upset about Israel being non-contiguous, when Palestine has been that way for decades, and even less contiguous due to Israeli-only roads and settlements within the territories.

    B. gsw - Israel was not promised peace for withdrawing from Gaza. It was a unilateral withdrawal, and hardly a withdrawal at all considering Israel still has control of the sea, air space and all borders. Even the CIA World Factbook still recognizes it as occupied territory, not a sovereign territory.
    Secondly, taqiyyah is not a word, in Arabic or English.
    Thirdly, no displacement of Israelis is taking place. You are making up stories. In actuality, millions of Palestinians were displaced.

    C. Anonymous, you are an idiot and don't deserve a response.

    D. Truth459: Israel is not God's country, it is one country out of many countries in the world. Keeping illegal drugs out of the US has nothing to do with the argument. Also, stop cherry picking Bible verses out of context to fit your point. You make Christians look bad.

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  10. @Andrew
    A. - What you are saying is basically having the same piece of land jointly owned. Can you elaborate a bit more specifically on how you picture that working keeping in mind Israel's legitimate security concerns?

    It is not a matter of 'being upset'. It is just an absurd notion that Obama can decide to split Israel in half so the Palestinian Territories can be connected. How would that be different then the leader of China telling Canada it needs to give the US land to connect Alaska to the lower 48, other than the fact that the US has not spent the better part of the past 60 years participating in efforts to push the Canadians into the sea?

    B. - it is true that Israel withdrew unilaterally, but it did so with the knowledge that the 'occupation' was the cited reason for the terrorist attacks coming from Gaza and that the attacks would stop once they left. They left and the attacks increased. There was displacement of Israelis, some of which had to be removed by force by the Israelis from Gaza. There was also a massive displacement of Jews during the creation of Israel.

    Forgetting about the boarder Gaza has with Egypt?

    C. - I have already opined that I do not think Obama is a secret Muslim.

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  11. You morons must not follow politics, you must only follow those you hate for various reasons....George Bush said the exact same things in regards to a contiguous palestinian state...know your facts before writing quickly discredited commentary.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jan/10/usa.israelandthepalestinians1

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  12. @Anonymous - you have to read more carefully. Bush was very clear that he was referring to the territory within the currently recognized boarders. He was not talking about connecting the two. Obama was not clear; though it is possible that is what he meant. If so, he should clarify that.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jan/10/usa.israelandthepalestinians1

    "He stressed a Palestinian state had to consist of contiguous territory if it was going to be viable and said "Swiss cheese isn't going to work.""

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