Friday, June 11, 2010

Obama - 'Israel Should Only Blockade Arms Shipments Boats to Gaza'

Of course that is the point of the blockade, to stop arms shipments into Gaza. That is why Israel screens the 'aid' for contraband before sending it through to Gaza. Unless Obama has an amazing piece of technology he is sitting on, there is no way to know which ships have the weapons on it and which do not. Considering we can not seem to stop people from walking onto airplanes with weapons, I doubt we have something that can perfectly scan ships from a distance. As strange as it sounds it seems Obama has simultaneously come out for and against the Israeli blockade.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/06/026503.php

"Actually, what happened aboard the Mavi Marmara is now well known; what we need is not an international investigation, but rather a leader who is willing to tell the truth about Hamas and its supporters. Obama continued:

The question now is how do we create a different framework so that people in Gaza can thrive and succeed, so that extremists are isolated as opposed to having an excuse for engaging in violent activities, but also how do we do it in a way that Israel's legitimate security concerns are met.

But of course, extremists don't need an excuse to commit violence; and in Gaza, terrorists are not isolated, they are popular. More of this in a moment.

With respect to the broader issue of lifting the blockade, as I said before, I think the key here is making sure that Israel's security needs are met but that the needs of people in Gaza are also met. And it seems to us that there should be ways of focusing narrowly on arms shipments, rather than focusing in a blanket way on stopping everything and then, in a piecemeal way, allowing things into Gaza.

As so often with Obama, you wonder: what the heck is he talking about? Does he imagine that there is some magical means by which Israel can identify the ships that are carrying arms, and only stop those?
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Past related posts:
Berman Post: Bloody Clash Off Coast of Gaza When Activists Tried to Break The Blockade
Berman Post: Turkey May Send Navy Ships to Accompany Next 'Gaza Aid' Ship
Berman Post: Gaza Supply Ship 'Peace Activists' Actually Al-Qaeda And Muslim Brotherhood Members
Berman Post: More Video of 'Peace Activists' Violently Trying to Break The Israeli Blockade
Berman Post: Netanyahu - "The Jewish State Has a Right to Defend Itself" (Plus More Video)
Berman Post: Flotilla Choir Presents - "We Con The World"
Berman Post: Israel Tries to Deliver 'Flotilla' Aid to Gaza, Hamas Refuses
Berman Post: Second 'Relief Flotilla' Blocked And Boarded Without Major Incident
Berman Post: Media Outlets Editing Photos to Remove Gaza Flotilla 'Peace Activists' Weapons

6 comments:

  1. What's amazing is that you are still deluding yourself with the belief that the purpose of the blockade is to keep weapons out of Gaza, hint for you- it's not, unless you want to tell us how allowing Gazans to import Israeli made cookies, while at the same time denying them the materials to build their own cookie factory will keep Qassam rockets out. It's like saying that because some gay men may be pedophiles, we should stop all gay men from being teachers just in case.

    Israel is the country that broke the cease-fire in the first place and if it wanted security could just accept Hamas's offers for a ceasefire-not to mention what the rest of the world has been asking for decades, a peace settlement along the 1967 borders- Which Israel also refuses

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  2. @Ian Spencer Dubrowsky - "unless you want to tell us how allowing Gazans to import Israeli made cookies, while at the same time denying them the materials to build their own cookie factory will keep Qassam rockets out." You must go through life being constantly surprised; 'what, they built a sprawling underground bunker complex, but they said they needed the 40 billion tons of concrete to make that one room building over there earthquake proof on the off chance that for the first time in recorded history an earthquake struck that area'.

    "just accept Hamas's offers for a ceasefire" - have your read Hamas's constitution lately, or bothered listening to anything they have said ever? The only ceasefire they are interested in is the one which happens after they run out of Jews to kill.

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  3. you miss the point- Hamas is their government. There is no doubdt that Hamas is an authortarian , corrupt movement that engages in terrorism (like Israel). but if Israel wants peace there (which it doesn't, it wants expansion, that's why they still settle places like the west bank) then it will eventually have to negotiate with Hamas- and in the past it has in fact done so. To suggest Israel should not do so until Hamas "recognizes" them is retarded, it doesn't mean anything, all power structures develop ideologies to justfy themselves. Should Hamas not negotiate with Israel until Israeli recognizez athe right for a palestinian state to exist? hardly. At least not if you are looking at their actions- as long as Israel settles the west bank their really is little credibilty to the notion that Israel wants to end the conflict- even if the palestinian leadership is reticient as well.

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  4. @Ian Spencer Dubrowsky - "if Israel wants peace there ... then it will eventually have to negotiate with Hamas" - that should be interesting; 'Israel to Hamas -> put down your arms, stop launching rockets at our school children and we will leave Gaza; oh that is right, we already left Gaza, so besides us dieing what is it exactly that you want? ... Hamas to Hamas buddy -> did you hear something because I did not, certainly there are no Israelis/Jews talking to us because they do not exist, but if there were they should read our constitution and know that we will not rest until they are all dead.'

    "Should Hamas not negotiate with Israel until Israeli recognizez athe right for a palestinian state to exist?" - you should go back and check your facts.

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  5. Andrew you should really put your personal resentment's against Hamas's rhetoric aside if you are trying to understand the conflict. Are there people who have some kind of irrational hatred of Jews? sure Are there Israeli's who have irrational hatreds of arabs? sure. Will either really tell you anything about how state's will act and interact with one another? no. In fact its really ridiculous of you to demand un-equivocably that Hamas "recosgnize israel" or renounce violence whatever that means, when Israel does not recognize Israeli war crimes nor does Israel renounce violence. Netanyahu earlier this year ceded that there could only be a Palestinian state basically if it was under Israeli military control- hardly an admission that the Palestinians have the right to a state. Also even Hezbollah and Iran have said they are willing to accept any peace deal the Palestinians accept- (of which none include the eradication of Jews).

    Hamas is no more an irrational state entity then Israel is. Israel has in the past negotiated with Hamas. Like the ceasefire that Israel broke in november 2008, of which Hamas respond with rocket's into Israel, of which Israel put forward Cast Lead. Also mind you the blockade which you have deluded yourself into believing is for the purpose of keeping rockets out, existed before Hamas was firing Qassam rockets into israel.

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  6. Earlier in the week, McClatchy obtained internal Israeli documents demonstrating that the purpose of the blockade isn't about security but, rather, "economic warfare."

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/06/09/95621/israeli-document-gaza-blockade.html

    The real shame is that not only is the blockade a humanitarian crime, one of many in the history of Israeli humanitarian crimes, but it's pretty shitty strategy too if your ultimate objective is "peace".

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